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	<title>Comments on: The Time and What Must Be Done (Part One)</title>
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	<description>A National Conversation with Amin Nathari</description>
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		<title>By: Sh. Mahmoud Ibrahim al-Amreeki</title>
		<link>http://aminnathari.wordpress.com/2008/03/07/the-time-and-what-must-be-done-facing-the-challenges-in-21st-century-america-its-movement-time/#comment-18</link>
		<dc:creator>Sh. Mahmoud Ibrahim al-Amreeki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 07:38:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ASA,

 To my most notable Brother, Ibn Abdul Haqq, the RAD experience and being &#039;on-post&#039; are the universal disciplines of the DAR. What is lacking in many of the pieces that we peruse is the kind of foundation in operational brotherhood that was integral to the movement. Lacking nowadays is the clarity in thought and action that came from trying to realize Islam in every facet of our lives. I think, given what i read on-line, the Islam of some is peripheral to their daily living. When in the movement, everything we did, even when working for non-Muslim concerns, we tried to make those experiences somehow serve the Islamic cause.  And yes, I remember running up and down coney island&#039;s broadwalk  and in  rockaway in cadence to la ilaha il-lal-lah Muhammad-door Ra-soo-loolah. 

Thanks for the info on  Medical Aparthied, I will pick it up, inshallah.    Salaam</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ASA,</p>
<p> To my most notable Brother, Ibn Abdul Haqq, the RAD experience and being &#8216;on-post&#8217; are the universal disciplines of the DAR. What is lacking in many of the pieces that we peruse is the kind of foundation in operational brotherhood that was integral to the movement. Lacking nowadays is the clarity in thought and action that came from trying to realize Islam in every facet of our lives. I think, given what i read on-line, the Islam of some is peripheral to their daily living. When in the movement, everything we did, even when working for non-Muslim concerns, we tried to make those experiences somehow serve the Islamic cause.  And yes, I remember running up and down coney island&#8217;s broadwalk  and in  rockaway in cadence to la ilaha il-lal-lah Muhammad-door Ra-soo-loolah. </p>
<p>Thanks for the info on  Medical Aparthied, I will pick it up, inshallah.    Salaam</p>
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		<title>By: IBN  ABDUL HAQQ</title>
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		<dc:creator>IBN  ABDUL HAQQ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 13:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ASA   Please if you haven&#039;t  read it get this book

About Medical Apartheid ...

From the era of slavery to the present day, the first

 full history of black America’s shocking mistreatment as unwilling and unwitting experimental subjects at the hands of the medical establishment.


Medical Apartheid is the first and only comprehensive history of medical experimentation on African Americans. Starting with the earliest encounters between black Americans and Western medical researchers and the racist pseudoscience that resulted, it details the ways both slaves and freedmen were used in hospitals for experiments conducted without their knowledge—a tradition that continues today within some black populations. It reveals how blacks have historically been prey to grave-robbing as well as unauthorized autopsies and dissections. Moving into the twentieth century, it shows how the pseudoscience of eugenics and social Darwinism was used to justify experimental exploitation and shoddy medical treatment of blacks, and the view that they were biologically inferior, oversexed, and unfit for adult responsibilities. Shocking new details about the government’s notorious Tuskegee experiment are revealed, as are similar, less-well-known medical atrocities conducted by the government, the armed forces, prisons, and private institutions.


Publishers Weekly praised Washington as “a great storyteller,” and named Medical Apartheid one of the best books of 2006, finding it, “even at its most distressing, compulsively readable.” PW, Kirkus and Booklist each honored the book with starred reviews, and the Black Caucus of the American Library Association bestowed its Honor Nonfiction Award for 2007 on Medical Apartheid, which also won the 2007 Gustavus Myers Outstanding Book Award and a PEN/Oakland award for nonfiction.


The product of years of prodigious research into medical journals and experimental reports long undisturbed, Medical Apartheid reveals the hidden underbelly of scientific research and makes possible, for the first time, an understanding of the roots of the African American health deficit. At last, it provides the fullest possible context for comprehending the behavioral fallout that has caused black Americans to view researchers—and indeed the whole medical establishment—with such deep distrust. No one concerned with issues of public health and racial justice can afford not to read Medical Apartheid, a masterful book that will stir up both controversy and long-needed debate.


HARDCOVER published January 9, 2007   Medical Apartheid: The Dark History of Medical Experimentation on Black Americans from Colonial Times to the Present. 512p. illus. index. Doubleday, $27.95 (0-385-50993-0). In bookstores everywhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ASA   Please if you haven&#8217;t  read it get this book</p>
<p>About Medical Apartheid &#8230;</p>
<p>From the era of slavery to the present day, the first</p>
<p> full history of black America’s shocking mistreatment as unwilling and unwitting experimental subjects at the hands of the medical establishment.</p>
<p>Medical Apartheid is the first and only comprehensive history of medical experimentation on African Americans. Starting with the earliest encounters between black Americans and Western medical researchers and the racist pseudoscience that resulted, it details the ways both slaves and freedmen were used in hospitals for experiments conducted without their knowledge—a tradition that continues today within some black populations. It reveals how blacks have historically been prey to grave-robbing as well as unauthorized autopsies and dissections. Moving into the twentieth century, it shows how the pseudoscience of eugenics and social Darwinism was used to justify experimental exploitation and shoddy medical treatment of blacks, and the view that they were biologically inferior, oversexed, and unfit for adult responsibilities. Shocking new details about the government’s notorious Tuskegee experiment are revealed, as are similar, less-well-known medical atrocities conducted by the government, the armed forces, prisons, and private institutions.</p>
<p>Publishers Weekly praised Washington as “a great storyteller,” and named Medical Apartheid one of the best books of 2006, finding it, “even at its most distressing, compulsively readable.” PW, Kirkus and Booklist each honored the book with starred reviews, and the Black Caucus of the American Library Association bestowed its Honor Nonfiction Award for 2007 on Medical Apartheid, which also won the 2007 Gustavus Myers Outstanding Book Award and a PEN/Oakland award for nonfiction.</p>
<p>The product of years of prodigious research into medical journals and experimental reports long undisturbed, Medical Apartheid reveals the hidden underbelly of scientific research and makes possible, for the first time, an understanding of the roots of the African American health deficit. At last, it provides the fullest possible context for comprehending the behavioral fallout that has caused black Americans to view researchers—and indeed the whole medical establishment—with such deep distrust. No one concerned with issues of public health and racial justice can afford not to read Medical Apartheid, a masterful book that will stir up both controversy and long-needed debate.</p>
<p>HARDCOVER published January 9, 2007   Medical Apartheid: The Dark History of Medical Experimentation on Black Americans from Colonial Times to the Present. 512p. illus. index. Doubleday, $27.95 (0-385-50993-0). In bookstores everywhere.</p>
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		<title>By: IBN  ABDUL HAQQ</title>
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		<dc:creator>IBN  ABDUL HAQQ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 12:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As salaamu alaikum my brother

Glad to visit your site. May Allah (s.w.t) Bless you in this battle to spread Haqq. To BR.
Kwame and the other young lions and lioness keep up the fight. To Sh. Al Amreeki i just
 looked at my RAD patch the other day ( its a Dar thing but i hope you all will understand)

                                                                  Love to the soldiers for Allahs sake</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As salaamu alaikum my brother</p>
<p>Glad to visit your site. May Allah (s.w.t) Bless you in this battle to spread Haqq. To BR.<br />
Kwame and the other young lions and lioness keep up the fight. To Sh. Al Amreeki i just<br />
 looked at my RAD patch the other day ( its a Dar thing but i hope you all will understand)</p>
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		<title>By: Sister Seeking</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sister Seeking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 20:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Salaam&#039;Alaikum Brother Amin/Abdur Rahman/Charles/Jamerican/Margari/Marc/Tariq

Alhamdilal, it&#039;s so good to see us &quot;loving&quot; ,and &quot;caring&quot; for ourselves-- even if it&#039;s through a blog.  I look forward to the continuation of this series, and more of your work in the future.  Don&#039;t allow any one to tell you all, you don&#039;t or can&#039;t make a difference-- we can all make a difference however humble it may be.

Also, I&#039;d like to piggy back on what Brother Kwame said on Abdur Rahman&#039;s blog.  I&#039;d love to see you all come together and form some type of virtual community.  Perhaps start a radio station online as well.  I&#039;m willing to pay a monthly sum if money is an issue( provided that it&#039;s legal and secure).  I firmly believe in putting your money where your mouth is.

I also want to see more discussions or articles about the youth.  I&#039;d love to hear from your spouses.  Share your positive parenting experiences within the light of Islam.  What about starting a blog for young people( provided it&#039;s a safe and well moderated) forum.  Let&#039;s pump so healthy, empowering, and &quot;nurtureing&quot; stuff into our youth.  Let&#039;s send the message we want to connect and we truly care.

Salaam</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Salaam&#8217;Alaikum Brother Amin/Abdur Rahman/Charles/Jamerican/Margari/Marc/Tariq</p>
<p>Alhamdilal, it&#8217;s so good to see us &#8220;loving&#8221; ,and &#8220;caring&#8221; for ourselves&#8211; even if it&#8217;s through a blog.  I look forward to the continuation of this series, and more of your work in the future.  Don&#8217;t allow any one to tell you all, you don&#8217;t or can&#8217;t make a difference&#8211; we can all make a difference however humble it may be.</p>
<p>Also, I&#8217;d like to piggy back on what Brother Kwame said on Abdur Rahman&#8217;s blog.  I&#8217;d love to see you all come together and form some type of virtual community.  Perhaps start a radio station online as well.  I&#8217;m willing to pay a monthly sum if money is an issue( provided that it&#8217;s legal and secure).  I firmly believe in putting your money where your mouth is.</p>
<p>I also want to see more discussions or articles about the youth.  I&#8217;d love to hear from your spouses.  Share your positive parenting experiences within the light of Islam.  What about starting a blog for young people( provided it&#8217;s a safe and well moderated) forum.  Let&#8217;s pump so healthy, empowering, and &#8220;nurtureing&#8221; stuff into our youth.  Let&#8217;s send the message we want to connect and we truly care.</p>
<p>Salaam</p>
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		<title>By: Sh. Mahmoud Ibrahim al-Amreeki</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sh. Mahmoud Ibrahim al-Amreeki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 01:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As salaamu alaikum wa Rahmatullah: Taken from your own post:
&quot;I do not think that anyone either within the Muslim community, or among the seemingly endless entities who study and profile it, will disagree with my assertion that the grassroots community, if properly mobilized and organized, using the Qur’an and the Prophetic tradition with a practical application as a foundation, has the potential to affect the most dramatic, positive, lasting change on the Islamic landscape in America today. I think that our history as Muslims in this country will bear me witness. And certainly God knows best.&quot;

This represents the closest representation of a &#039;vision&#039; that is so lacking with some of your fellow bloggers.  I will use this prism  in the future, when looking at your posts,   It&#039;s not enough to dissect and put under the &#039;social microscope&#039; the less than pc behaviors of the community except to point to or refer to a vision of &#039;how we are to be in this strange land&#039;.  

Sometimes I feel that the end result of much of the critique of the islalmicamreican experience(read africanamerican) is we need to be model americans and it ends there. No mention of the desire to some measure of sovereignty within our own tradition and the struggle to have it recognized as  legit by the dominant culture to insure our own development and continuation as a &#039;way of life&#039; that is acceptable by Our Creator.  Although I&#039;ve never been in the NOI, everyone was clear about their vision of blackpeople in the US what they saw as an end-result once their vision was fulfilled.  In the Dar ul Islam movement as well as in the Iqaamatidden movement there is the &#039;vision&#039; of the sovereignty described above.  When one struggles to understand the &#039;vision&#039; that the Companions of the Prophet(pboh) had, then one cannot be content with just being a bright, intellectually gifted writer whose end result makes a better  &#039;plantation-worker&#039;. 

And so with this, my brother, I welcome your posts</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As salaamu alaikum wa Rahmatullah: Taken from your own post:<br />
&#8220;I do not think that anyone either within the Muslim community, or among the seemingly endless entities who study and profile it, will disagree with my assertion that the grassroots community, if properly mobilized and organized, using the Qur’an and the Prophetic tradition with a practical application as a foundation, has the potential to affect the most dramatic, positive, lasting change on the Islamic landscape in America today. I think that our history as Muslims in this country will bear me witness. And certainly God knows best.&#8221;</p>
<p>This represents the closest representation of a &#8216;vision&#8217; that is so lacking with some of your fellow bloggers.  I will use this prism  in the future, when looking at your posts,   It&#8217;s not enough to dissect and put under the &#8217;social microscope&#8217; the less than pc behaviors of the community except to point to or refer to a vision of &#8216;how we are to be in this strange land&#8217;.  </p>
<p>Sometimes I feel that the end result of much of the critique of the islalmicamreican experience(read africanamerican) is we need to be model americans and it ends there. No mention of the desire to some measure of sovereignty within our own tradition and the struggle to have it recognized as  legit by the dominant culture to insure our own development and continuation as a &#8216;way of life&#8217; that is acceptable by Our Creator.  Although I&#8217;ve never been in the NOI, everyone was clear about their vision of blackpeople in the US what they saw as an end-result once their vision was fulfilled.  In the Dar ul Islam movement as well as in the Iqaamatidden movement there is the &#8216;vision&#8217; of the sovereignty described above.  When one struggles to understand the &#8216;vision&#8217; that the Companions of the Prophet(pboh) had, then one cannot be content with just being a bright, intellectually gifted writer whose end result makes a better  &#8216;plantation-worker&#8217;. </p>
<p>And so with this, my brother, I welcome your posts</p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 15:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Welcome aboard brother. You are one more voice making a difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome aboard brother. You are one more voice making a difference.</p>
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		<title>By: Amin Nathari is Making it Plain &#171; A Singular Voice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amin Nathari is Making it Plain &#171; A Singular Voice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 15:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is Making it&#160;Plain March 7, 2008 Posted by Abdur-Rahman M in Announcements.  trackback  His first blog post is up. Br Amin is a brilliant man and has lots of ideas for solutions to the many problems we face [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] is Making it&nbsp;Plain March 7, 2008 Posted by Abdur-Rahman M in Announcements.  trackback  His first blog post is up. Br Amin is a brilliant man and has lots of ideas for solutions to the many problems we face [...]</p>
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